Finding out someone yous know is a murderer is inappreciably a mutual occurrence, merely one online discussion has clustered over 3,000 comments with anecdotes of exactly that.

Popular Subreddit, "Ask Reddit," oftentimes sees users enquire relatively out-there questions, and this time, users who knew a murderer were asked to spill about the red flags they missed beforehand.

"People who knew murderers before they killed someone, what red flags didn't you notice at the time?" asked Reddit user white-cherries, specifying for "Serious Replies Merely."

Answers revealed gripping details ranging from memories of "sociopath stares" to admittedly no red flags, making the news fifty-fifty more than shocking.

"I worked with [a murderer] right up until the point he murdered his pregnant wife and their children. Can't say it was so much missed signs as signs that are even more disturbing in retrospect," wrote Reddit user Serenidade.

"On the surface he seemed like a polite, friendly guy, if a little awkward. He would brand modest talk with me in the role breakroom, almost always complaining about his wife and stress at home. He treated it like chit-chat but information technology was clear he couldn't cease thinking most it.

"When a common co-worker and I moved into a rental house together, he offered to mow the lawn. We didn't have defunction upward withal and I was in my new bedroom putting clothes away when I realized he was outside, lawn mower running just just standing at that place and staring at me through the window. Creeped me right out," they added.

Reddit user Honigbiene_92 noted an feel with staring as well, which a commenter dubbed the "sociopath stare."

Honigbiene_92 said, "A person I knew had attempted to murder someone, and something I noticed about them was their trend to star at people they didn't similar. They had washed it a agglomeration in school and it was ever really weird when yous would catch them staring at y'all, they ever pretended it never happened."

"My sister'south fiancé murdered her," shared Reddit user backaritagain. "Red flags? Well, not really except he was suddenly into many things that my sister was into. Like 1000000% became his persona. He wasn't his own person every bit was super clingy and needy. Found out a few weeks before he killed her he was suddenly into guns. She wasn't. Tried to exit. Murder suicide."

One Reddit user'south rat-based anecdote gained over ane,400 votes, detailing a neighbor who almost murdered people: "Not quite murder, just the guy in the apartment next to mine snapped and stabbed two builders and a domestic dog, and went on the run. Anybody ended up being fine, though. The cerise flags started appearing one by 1 the longer I knew him. He concluded upwards stalking me after I finally told him to leave me solitary," they wrote.

"Just subsequently the stabbing, I was making chit-chat in the hall with the policeman who was put in charge of the stalking instance. They were going through his apt for evidence for both cases and he just casually let me know that in the guy'southward bathtub, there were half a dozen expressionless rat carcasses that had had their brains bashed in with a hammer. My neighbor had ever joked nearly if I ever saw a rat, he'd 'take intendance of it' for me."

Others, nevertheless, shared different experiences, with no scarlet flags at all, pointing out how much more than surprising information technology fabricated information technology.

"Nothing," answered one user. "I would have told you he was truly ane of the nicest, kindest guys I'd ever met. He was a regular customer at a place my sis-in-law bartended at. He was e'er squeamish, friendly, funny, a genuinely good guy. When the husband and I would visit the sister-in-police force at work he'd chat with united states like we were onetime friends. He manifestly had a bit of a beat out on her but she was involved and had a small child and he respected that. Never even striking on her. There were many nights he'd stay past close to help her clean up, take trash out, lug kegs for her. Sometimes they'd go over to the later hours bar with a couple other people.

"They got to know each other quite well over several years. Then ane night her friend was at the bar and had as well much so she couldn't drive. He offered to drive her home. My sis-in-police would never lookout an impaired friend become out lone with only any client but she never idea twice most this. In fact, she even thought information technology was so similar him to offering... Such a nice guy!! She was happy her friend would get home safe...They found her friend's body the adjacent 24-hour interval. She had been brutally raped and mutilated with multiple objects (I'll spare the details, but it was VISCOUS) and then strangled to death. He apparently drove effectually with her trunk until nearly sun up, non sure what to do with her when he decided to render to the bar. He dumped her torso in the back aisle adjacent to the dumpster.

"My sis-in-police had to prove confronting him. In court information technology was brought to calorie-free that he had a history of violence against women. We were all absolutely shocked," they added.

Similarly, another Reddit user explained there had been "no clues" from the person they knew. "He was my friend's younger blood brother. Seemed like a piddling chip of an underachieving stoner but no alarm signs of what he was capable of. Terminal memory of him was wrestling him for the final spare couch to crash on in the dwindling portion of a house party."

"He and one of his friends broke into the abode of an elderly couple, slit their throats, and burned their firm down to endeavor to cover it up. All to steal their safe because they thought it had a bunch of cash in it. They were caught in a calendar week. The worst part? This was a small town in Vermont. Town of hundreds. Everyone knew everyone. They played in the pool of the former couple during the summers every bit children."

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